Flamingo kid
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Top 20?
Top 50?
Where do you place Dirk in the list of all time greats?
Top 50?
Where do you place Dirk in the list of all time greats?
Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
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Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Top 100....at best...
Top 100....at best...
KingRevolver
Born Rambler
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Anywhere between 75 to 100... the NBA has their greatest 50 players... and Dirk doesn't belong in there, IMO.
Anywhere between 75 to 100... the NBA has their greatest 50 players... and Dirk doesn't belong in there, IMO.
steak tartar
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
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Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
career not over yet. He is better than some in the top 50 for certain though. He wins a ring this year and he goes into the top 30 without a doubt.
barely in the top 100 is a comical answer.
career not over yet. He is better than some in the top 50 for certain though. He wins a ring this year and he goes into the top 30 without a doubt.
barely in the top 100 is a comical answer.
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
I dislike one-way players.
The big German doesn't influence the game on the defensive end.
He has a shooting coach, but where is his defensive coach?
If we're talking all-time, I could name 100 players better than Dirk.
I dislike one-way players.
The big German doesn't influence the game on the defensive end.
He has a shooting coach, but where is his defensive coach?
If we're talking all-time, I could name 100 players better than Dirk.
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
? he doesn't rebound? 8.4 for his career so far isn't to awful for the one way player.
? he doesn't rebound? 8.4 for his career so far isn't to awful for the one way player.
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
King I got to disagree with you as well.
Dirk > Unseld
Dirk > Bill Walton
Bill Walton is funny to me, but all the old timers argue because he was a great pure basketball player. He was GREAT in college, but he barely played in the NBA. He played a little over the equivalent of 5 seasons in his NBA career, and he wasn't even productive in those seasons - he had one great playoff run.
There are more top 50 I'd take Dirk over as well. Worthy? Hal Greer? Plenty of names on there that Dirk has out performed.
Dirk is a top 50 player IMO, and the greatest international player the game has seen.
Huh?
King I got to disagree with you as well.
Dirk > Unseld
Dirk > Bill Walton
Bill Walton is funny to me, but all the old timers argue because he was a great pure basketball player. He was GREAT in college, but he barely played in the NBA. He played a little over the equivalent of 5 seasons in his NBA career, and he wasn't even productive in those seasons - he had one great playoff run.
There are more top 50 I'd take Dirk over as well. Worthy? Hal Greer? Plenty of names on there that Dirk has out performed.
Dirk is a top 50 player IMO, and the greatest international player the game has seen.
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Go ahead - I can't wait to see your list.
He's a 7 footer, and he is a very good defensive rebounder (which is a part of defense). He's not a banger, but he's not a poor defender by any means IMO.
Go ahead - I can't wait to see your list.
He's a 7 footer, and he is a very good defensive rebounder (which is a part of defense). He's not a banger, but he's not a poor defender by any means IMO.
royboy
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Sorry, but you can't. Dirk is an average defensive player, not horrible. And is one of the most unique offensive players ever, this postseason run he's had is incredible.
Sorry, but you can't. Dirk is an average defensive player, not horrible. And is one of the most unique offensive players ever, this postseason run he's had is incredible.
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Thought I wrote that originally, then though I edited it. Nah well.
IrishTim
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Kobe is also a one-way player.
Kobe is also a one-way player.
KingRevolver
Born Rambler
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
I forgot about Bill Walton. He was worthless, and I have no idea why they decided to put him in there. He had like what- three good seasons?
Career NBA statistics
Points 6,215
FG% 52.1
Blocks 1,034
I forgot about Bill Walton. He was worthless, and I have no idea why they decided to put him in there. He had like what- three good seasons?
Career NBA statistics
Points 6,215
FG% 52.1
Blocks 1,034
Teddy kgb
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IrishTim
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
When does Kobe do anything but force contested fadeaways over a double team?
When does Kobe do anything but force contested fadeaways over a double team?
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Tim, you talk as if that was how Kobe played his entire career. The guy scored 81 points in a NBA basketball game.
Flamingo kid
Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Dirk. Nuff Said.
Dirk. Nuff Said.
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Give me Akeem and Steve Nash over Dirk for international stars...
Give me Akeem and Steve Nash over Dirk for international stars...
FISHHEAD
EOG Master
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Not much of a limb buddy, but I agree with you.
Not much of a limb buddy, but I agree with you.
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
To be honest, I think I'd agree with you that Hakeem is better than Dirk but I classify him slightly different than I do Dirk. Hakeem was toughened up and coached by college coaches in this country - Dirk was a Euro who got drafted w/o any American basketball experience.
Steve Nash though? I hope you're joking. You rip Dirk for being a one way player but Steve Nash is one of the most worthless defenders in the league. When they were on the same team, Dirk was the best player. Nash is the worst MVP winner in league history. Nash is a very good player, but he's not better than Dirk - he's also Canadian for god sakes.
The dream is an argument I'd hear, and wouldn't argue with much. Hakeem is a bit different because he ended up playing college ball in America - Dirk is a true international player who was drafted from the international ranks.
To be honest, I think I'd agree with you that Hakeem is better than Dirk but I classify him slightly different than I do Dirk. Hakeem was toughened up and coached by college coaches in this country - Dirk was a Euro who got drafted w/o any American basketball experience.
Steve Nash though? I hope you're joking. You rip Dirk for being a one way player but Steve Nash is one of the most worthless defenders in the league. When they were on the same team, Dirk was the best player. Nash is the worst MVP winner in league history. Nash is a very good player, but he's not better than Dirk - he's also Canadian for god sakes.
JAKEPEAVY21
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
So far, it has been 1 superstar vs. 2.65 superstars, and the series is tied 2-2.
I think this Dirk guy is pretty good.
So far, it has been 1 superstar vs. 2.65 superstars, and the series is tied 2-2.
I think this Dirk guy is pretty good.
royboy
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
bird absolutely and i'd listen to an argument with mchale, the other two??? :LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
bird absolutely and i'd listen to an argument with mchale, the other two??? :LMAO:LMAO:LMAO
Flamingo kid
Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Larry Bird is better than Dirk?
Cmon, you can't believe that.
Larry Bird is better than Dirk?
Cmon, you can't believe that.
Flamingo kid
Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
One of the main goals (besides winning titles) is to place the ball into the hole. The guys who place that ball into the hole the most, are the best. Am i right about this? Isnt the goal of the game to score the basketball for the most part? I know its not ALL of the game, but its a fairly important thing.....if you look at the list of all time leading scorers, you'll see some of the all time greats among that list. The top 20 scorers of all time are some of the 20 best players of all time, its not a coincidence that these top 20 scorers are also considered 20 of the best ever to play.
One of the main goals (besides winning titles) is to place the ball into the hole. The guys who place that ball into the hole the most, are the best. Am i right about this? Isnt the goal of the game to score the basketball for the most part? I know its not ALL of the game, but its a fairly important thing.....if you look at the list of all time leading scorers, you'll see some of the all time greats among that list. The top 20 scorers of all time are some of the 20 best players of all time, its not a coincidence that these top 20 scorers are also considered 20 of the best ever to play.
Timely Hero
Jacoby Blows
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
FK, you're so simple it scares me at times.
Bill Russell is a top 10 player and he didn't score 20 points a game - just to name one.
You also have been hyping the Miami Heat all year, and now Dallas wins a couple games and you're hyping Dallas? You are like an ESPN drone that registers at forums and speaks brainwashed mumble-jumble over and over again.
FK, you're so simple it scares me at times.
Bill Russell is a top 10 player and he didn't score 20 points a game - just to name one.
You also have been hyping the Miami Heat all year, and now Dallas wins a couple games and you're hyping Dallas? You are like an ESPN drone that registers at forums and speaks brainwashed mumble-jumble over and over again.
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Flamingo kid
Everybody's hands go UP!
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
DIRK.
Nuff said.
DIRK.
Nuff said.
Seymour
EOG Dedicated
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
Right - DJ? Chief? Hahaha
Oh yeah, Dirk is the 2nd best PF after duncan
Right - DJ? Chief? Hahaha
Oh yeah, Dirk is the 2nd best PF after duncan
partymonster
Banned
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
with this championship top 30 and if he plays 4-5 more years and same numbers top 10-20 easy
WHAT?
with this championship top 30 and if he plays 4-5 more years and same numbers top 10-20 easy
Viejo Dinosaur
EOG Master
Re: Where does Dirk land on the all time greats list?
He now makes it to the top 75 or 80....
His teammates carried him in game six and seven...
He now makes it to the top 75 or 80....
His teammates carried him in game six and seven...